I've never replaced king pins before. For those not familiar with your machine post a photo of what you're up against might be a good idea. Commonly refered to as bellmouthing the pin will actually rock in the beam using the lock pin as a pivot. Have used heat on axles several times didn't seem to hurt anything. Any hammer over 2 pounds is a "speed wrench". The trick to getting it out fairly easily is to break that rust bond loose. In order for you to receive the best possible offers, please make sure your answers above are accurate prior to submitting. you can also heat the pin to shrink it, if that doesn't work burn a hole through it and then it should shrink. Currently in 1000 pcs while rebuilding. This requires a rapid heating technique accomplished with maximum rose-bud sizing and, sometimes, a pair of torches. Please Like And Subscribe. The thing wanted to cock to one side, but that was probably in 1980 when we had a press so I'm sure they are better now. I Need CDL Training 1-5 Months http://www.theinductor.com/index.php?m=41. as far as just replacing the zirc.
Stuck kingpin wedge - School Bus Fleet Magazine Forums 2 Years The three big tire outfits all sub their older truck suspension work to this one little shop. by AlleyCat Sun Mar 29, 2009 8:32 am, Post Just take some vise grips and clamp it on the punch/drift and hold on to the vise grips. I've had good luck freeing up stuck anything with 50/50 mix of ATF and Acetone. the nylon type wont last for nothing. Bruce. Keep your jack on it with pressure and heat the bushings up where it's stuck, HOT, Ive had good luck shocking it with cold water or a block of ice on a stuck snow plow pin. Are you talking about the 'king pin' plate that is attached to the front of the trailer or the tandem slider pins? mapp gas in the yellow bottles burns hotter than propane. 3 Years Terms of Service -
Sometimes you can borrow a porta-power hydrualic ram unit and then just press the little buggers out without having to resort to major hammers and bloodshed. Don't use heat. after i had let them sit in my garage too long. Removing frozen king pins during maintenance and repair on heavy haulers is extremely difficult because the pins can be 4" in diameter and 10" long. Many shops have labor rates in the $90/hr range, and parts alone are around $80. Copyright 1995-2021 The Jalopy Journal: Steal our stuff, we'll kick your teeth in. Then using a penetrating oil called p.b. by qmcdugan Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:13 pm, Return to Suspension / Steering / Brakes, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited, Suspension, steering, brakes, wheels & tires. to sweat it back together. I cranked the crap out of that jack and put so much pressure on it that I was afraid I was going to shatter the socket and shed some more blood from the sharpnel. Create an account on our community. Privacy Policy. We had one that was so stuck, we used 20tons worth of force to get the king pin to move. Dissapointed in the manual. so i took the torch and carefully torched the spacer out of that are with out damaging the king pin. One version is mechanical and can be powered with an impact wrench. Administrator. I figured out why my steering was so hardbesides being manual. I tried using an air hammer, never thought of something like a jack hammer, it makes sense, it has the extra weight and more force. Gouging rod or thermal lance, put a block under one of the jack legs to get the machine on a angle. Archive -
I seem to recall they jacked the truck up, set a socket under the kingpin, let the truck down so all the weight was on the kingpin and beat on top of the axle until it came loose. Loosen the nut (but dont take it off all the way, you will want to tap on the nut, and not the tapered pin to remove it) Once it is loose, unscrew the nut, and pull out the pin. ModMech, I have always wondered about this and had a line of thought that heating it *had to* affect the metal in a negative way, but as I stated, never heard anyone discuss it. Privacy Statement -
Ya I forgot about hitting my hand. I should have picked up a set then. I did that to the '51 and it took almost a month to get it back. Often it will suck the wax in as it cools helping to ease things. Its basicly a shock absorber. Penatrating oil and clamp on to the brake actuator cup and work it untill it spins, then it should press out. by fordman Fri Mar 27, 2009 1:06 am, Post NAPA also can do this or a good local machine shop. Try a regular torch, a decent size hammer and punch, along with something solid to support the axle while driving the kingpin out. Get the axle against something that won't move get then hot and larrup the hell out of them (hammer and punch). Any thoughts? You should get the 49-51 Manual, it covers these trucks much better. Do a search on this forum and there is a ton of advice for removing stubborn king pins and we've all got war stories that you'll enjoy reading. Easier then trying to beat the pin out. Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by doublew, Oct 15, 2011. By checking this box and clicking the "Send me job offers" button below, I represent that I: By checking this box and clicking the "Send me job offers" button below. It used to take us about an hour to do an attachment change, but the last time it was under a minute. Powered by vBulletin
I don't want to use the torch due to all the slag it will create and I won't be able to cut the pin without cutting part of the bushing and/or cylinder. Keeping the knuckle clean is important too. I understand. I beat on the pins so much that they mushroomed on top. Roll pins are typically used in place of bolts to hold two pieces of metal together. I'm not sure if you understood the torch method. Others took days and days of beatings and soakings and heat. Please register or login to enable Dark Mode. It also helps to support the axle with something other than a jack or jack stand (too much give). 28 Location Northeastern Maryland Sep 10, 2014 #1 Hopefully I am posting this in the right area, since this issue can be related to almost any machine. you are right about the blue propane bottles not being able to heat much of anything except plumbing. you will have to replace the king pin and bushings. The only adjustment there is to bend the axle. while the cap is off look in there and see if the grease is hard of soft. Worst case you can use the torch to blow the center out of each end of the pin as far back as possible.
54 Chevy Kingpin removal | The H.A.M.B. - The Jalopy Journal I used the jackhammer and was able to remove both pins in under 20 minutes. That does work , I use to have a 20 lb air chipping hammer that the flood destroyed , still got the bits that I had fabed and modified for different jobs , a blunt shank bit worked on pins , I had welded a round plate to one bit and had some plates of different diameters and had used them to drive out bushing and bearing races and frozen pins on dozer blades and cylinders ------------------ I wish I had it this morning as I am going to try and get out a frozen pin on the dozer blade cylinder of a Kubota excavator that needs resealing , I tried the other day with heat , 16 lb mall , a hundred hits and penetrating oil and never budged it , I got the new pin in yesterday and the plan is to cut the pin into the bore as far as I can from both sides and then drive it out ------------- I know where I can borrow one for the day and think I will try it out, Now that my friend is a good idea. Cried a lot but always got it out. If it bounces, you won't be able to hit it "solid" enough to get them out. Gotta do it, don't know diddly. Well, it sounds like I'll have to check the shops to find one that is capable of pressing pins out of the spindles and getting the grunt work done for me, just in case I can't. i woudl think you could do that at the same time or another time. I think the easiest way to do kingpins is to pull the whole axles off, and. The other problem there is that when the axle becomes that hot, so does the pin, and it tends to mushroom when you hit it, becomming impossible to remove all-together. Using torches to heat is always the first on my listand if does not dislodge the part.time for step II. Live each like it's going to be your last, one day you'll be right! Privacy Policy. The following errors occurred with your submission, 1948 - 1956 F1, F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks, Discuss the Fat Fendered and Classic Ford Trucks, Lightning, Harley-Davidson F-150, Roush F-150 & Saleen F-150, Conventional (Bumper Pull) Towing; Travel Trailers & Pop-ups, Toy Hauler Towing; Fifth Wheel & Bumper Pull, Flatbed, Car, Boat, Utility, Horse & Misc. I don't remember getting anything red-hot though. Randy 1970 F100 Sport Custom Limited LWB, 302cid, 3 on the tree. they were just to hard to move in that little space. The heat is great as the # 1 step because it does 'something' to help 'unglue' two adjoining metal parts through either expansion or breaking down rust. Please register or login to enable Dark Mode. A rebuild shop for Euclid haulers cuts the pin with an oxy-acetylene torch and uses a sledge hammer and drift punch to loosen the king pin. Terms Of Service. Archive -
You must log in or register to reply here. Posts: 1,700. I always used those no ream kits. I mean, I can't turn the spindle by hand.even with the tie rod end disconnected! The handles pulled the pins right out. good luck with your removal when it comes time. You have to remove the end caps on top and bottom, then remove the locking pin and nut that goes thru the axle. The hydraulic versions are slicker than snot on a door knob. The bigger issue after replacing the king pins should be toe and that you can get pretty close. Works like magic! if its hard just stick something in there and dig it out. Is it stuck in the axle or (spindle, probably unlikely) ? It may not display this or other websites correctly. You will have an 95% chance of not hitting your hand. The most common advice from the crew as I recall is: The bearing cap is threaded on. by qmcdugan Fri Mar 27, 2009 5:39 pm, Post Right now, our upper bushing on the driver's side . All I ever say is OUCH! I would disconnect the tie-rod end and with the wheel off, force grease in while moving the spindle left and right quickly. so doing this in your truck may be harder or easier depending on how you look at it. So difficult to remove the stuck king pin #mechanic #mechanicsteve #trucks #kingpinJoin as a member to support me : )https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6kvdXz. may be you could borrow one from a shop that does truck work where you live. Please select the number of verifiable months youve been driving professionally using your Class A CDL within the last 3 years. I'll post some pics on my gallery! Why would someone refuse a special order? i then reheated the i beam and i pounded them right out. When I got back to doing it, the pin came out easily after that.
Stuck/"Frozen" Pin | Heavy Equipment Forums 00:0000:00. Is it stuck in the axle or (spindle, probably unlikely) ? It should come right out. Busted my butt for about two hours, and shed a minor amount of blood. I put it on press for two days and i used a little hand held torch to heat it up thinking it would work and nothing. I heard all the horror stories about getting them out but, being a gluten for punishment, I decided I'd give it a shot. Guys most king pins have a top and bottom.
Viewing a thread - truck kingpin removal - AgTalk You should NEVER EVER heat ANY cast steering component. When I tried to remove the pins on my Case 1818 version of a quick attach, I found out just how hard pins can rust into place. S&w innovations makes a tool specifically designed to remove stuck draw wedge bolts that hold in the king pin. If not, my apologies. The press jumped with loud bang, when they broke loose.
King Pin Removal, Tricks? - Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums Mashing at red hot metal may be more harmful since one may be 'riveting' metals together, so working the cool metal is in order.
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King Pin Removal Made Easy - Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums these trucks are very easy you just have to get used to them. Lucky me i get to mess with the wishbone bolts next. the zirc s canbe replaced by themsleves. I just repeated these steps again until it came out. *** The Official Superduty Morning Coffee Thread ***, https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/shreadid=104149, Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. Rod. I used PB blaster and a BIG hammer for over a week. If the measurment is the same on both ends then it doesn't matter. so i took the caps off of them and used soem heat to get them to turning. I had a nice giggle at the end, sounded like Mythbusters, if in doubt, C4. I had some years back, where no matter how hard I beat on them they would not move.
trx 200 kingpin removal | Honda ATV Forum The mechanical versions can be found on evilbay or craigslist time to time. I think the problem was I was trying to pound them up. I sprayed them with penetrating fluid (to death), beat on them, used an air chisel with a pushing pin, used a torch for heat, beat some more, added a generous supply of cursing, till finally I used a bottle jack, and heat to remove them. Whoa! Well I went shopping and when I came back he is 4 wheeling and the bolt is still stuck..lol..he said it was either 4 wheeling or a stick of dynamite..Thank you ALL..I guess he just do the One rod he got the pins out and take the other One with him.. That's the guy I was thinking of. Got side tracked on my frozen pin yesterday maybe I'll get to it today ..Here is a cool hammer /driver story , I was always a mechanic but one company I worked for used me alot as an operator when things were slow with repairs , the company specialized in doing what every you could think up and would try anything as long as you were willing to pay , I can tell you some wierd stuff to do with equipment , we were working with a land scape company who was moving gigantic historical oak tree from the old Pontchartrain Beach site that was going to demo for new construction , they came up with a plan of digging a trench around the tree about 10 ft from the tree base , 6ft wide and about 8ft deep ,this was tuff digging and guys had to jump in the hole and cut huge roots with chain saws as we went along , they set a line boring machine into the trench and tried to bore holes under the tree to slide pipes in so that they could rig up and lift the tree out the hole with a crane , the roots were killing them , we came up with an idea to quicken the procedure and it work really well . we fabed a adaptor the slide over a hydraulic breakers bit and the pipe they wanted to slide under the tree fit into the adaptor , we had a trench dug for the pipe to lay flat on the ground at the level to drive it , we flip the hammer around on the dipper/arm so that it pointed away from the machine , they grinded the tip of the pipe to a beveled edge so it would cut as it went , it easily pounded the pipe thru the soil and roots , they wrapped the mud and roots with burlap sacks and wire to keep the dirt from falling off , we put 4 pipes under each tree , been a long time but seems 3inch heavy wall pipe is what was used , they trimmed a lot of the excess limbs off the trees , brought in a 100 ton truck crane and picked the trees out of the ground and loaded them on a truck , we did about 20 of them , we had another hoe digging the holes for the trees new home , I watched it took a few years for all the limbs to come back out on the trees , that was at least 25 years ago and the trees are still there and you can't tell they were relocated , it was pretty expensive for each tree but how can you put a price tag on a tree that is least 100 plus years old.
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